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"Risperdal or fish oil?"
hopeful (48 posts)
 
 
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Mar-12-02, 11:22 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
If you haven't already read it...A good book to read on the subject of fish oil capsules is "The LCD Solution: The Remarkable Nutritional Treatment for ADHD, Dyslexia & Dyspraxia" by B. Jacqueline Stordy, Ph.D. and Malcolm J. Nicholl. Lots of research to back up the theory that LDPs (long chain polyunsaturated fatty acids) supports optimal brain health. And a list of the different supplements available and where to get them. You can buy the book on Amazon.com LCPs are believed to be responsible for the IQ point difference between breast-fed and bottle-fed babies. We don't get enough LCPs in the western diet, as the best sources come from fish like tuna and salmon. There's also a website. I think it is www.lcpsolution.com, but I'm not sure. I had very bad luck getting my 5-yr-old to swallow the capsules, but there is a chewable form available on the website that I've heard good things about from others, including my child's occupational therapist. Good luck!
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JanMSRD (5 posts)
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Mar-29-02, 07:08 PM (EST)
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3. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
Elizabeth,
I am new to this board as of yesterday but your post caught my eye. My son who is 6 has been taking Risperdal for 2 years now and is also on Luvox (another SSRI like Zoloft) and 2 omega brite (omega 3) a day. I have switched around when he takes the Risperdal because he occasionally falls asleep in school. We now break up the doses for one in the am and one in the pm and I think it is helping. Not every med is for every kid. I saw the biggest change when we added the Luvox and omega brites but think the Risperdal helps too. We tried Concerta once and he went totally crazy on us so it really depends on your child. I will tell you that his behavior is escalating as of late which is why I am now here but they would have to put me away if he was not on medication.
Jan
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stressedout (16 posts)
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Apr-01-02, 11:08 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
I was reading your post and was wondering how long your child has been on the remeron? And what is he taking the remeron for? My son started taking remeron a little over a week ago and it doesn't seem to be having any affect on him. He is still having the meltdowns and does everything just like before he started taking the medication. I was just wondering how long you had to take the remeron before you noticed any difference. Thank you for any information. At this point i am ready to call his doctor and see what we need to do next.
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ElizabethL (5 posts)
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Apr-18-02, 09:26 PM (EST)
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7. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
We are continuing Remeron after 8 weeks (?) even though it has not helped the explosive problems. It's very frustrating. My husband and I did feel that it sort of rounded out our son's personality more. His social relationships continue to improve and he just seems more confident. He was taking zoloft but we just quit that after a year, because it seemed to no longer be of much use. I feel like I'm going in a circle, because we are once again trying risperdal. I'm trying to start out with a really low dose to gain some tolerance for the sedative effect. Remeron causes sleepiness too so I want to go slow. I recently changed to the OmegaBrite brand of fish oil, because it has a higher EHA (?) ratio. So far it is hard to tell if it makes a difference, but there is always such good news about Omega-3s I thought I would continue.
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ElizabethL (5 posts)
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Apr-18-02, 09:30 PM (EST)
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8. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
StressedOut, the Dr. told me to expect results in 4-6 weeks of taking Remeron. My son is being treated as depressed and explosive or some kind of mood disorder, but probably not early-onset bipolar.
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stressedout (16 posts)
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Apr-19-02, 07:32 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
Thank you for responding. We went and seen the doctor today and he said the same thing about the remeron taking 4-6 weeks before you notice any thing. He suggested we start taking something for the adhd and i said i wanted to wait and give the remeron a chance to work before we started any new medication. Hope i am doing the right thing with this. This medication thing is all new and you never know if your doing the right thing or not. The doctor said the adhd medication would not help with the explosive side of things but would help him focus more in school. Since school is almost out i chose to wait on that and see if we can get the explosiveness taken care of first. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
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adhdmomwith2sons (1 posts)
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Apr-04-04, 10:44 AM (EST)
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16. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
hi...new to this site..i am adhd w/mood disorder..and i have 2 sons 8 and 12 with same issues...my younger son has major explosive tendencies..he is on strattera...resperdol (just started taking it) and lexapro (for anxiety piece)...previously he was on stimulants...(including at different times...concerta..adderall...metadate..ritalin)...yes, the stimulants did seem to work...but on the other side of the coin...when they wore off at the end of the day I had a human time bomb on my hands!! i believe the term is called rebounding?...also,, i take the adderral for my adhd, and i do notice at the end of day when it wears off I get very irritable and moody...just want to be left alone...but I am an adult and I keep telling myself....its just the meds,,its just the meds..i try to remain calm and use stress techniques..i.e. bubble bath...candles..etc. but im an adult and i realize what is happening...its very hard for the child to do this. also..after he took the stims. for about 2 years it started aggravating the explosive episodes to the point he had to be hospitalized because his fits got very very bad...to the point he was screaming threats at people...the dr. at hospital advised the stimulants in her opinion where now working against him..so she initiated the strattera...non stimulant adhd med...we are trying to adjust all the new meds...and its a slow process...hope my input shed some light on your question...
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matlem (926 posts)
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Apr-04-04, 04:20 PM (EST)
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17. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
For my reading parenting experience it seems that the addition of a mood stabilizer seems to do the trick
Yours Allan
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bonnieM (3 posts)
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Apr-10-06, 09:07 PM (EST)
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26. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
I understand where your comming from with the moodiness at the end of the day, my son is on Adderall, he has been since 5, he's 91/2 now. He got really bad for a while, and we knew at the end of the day it was because his meds wore off. Recently (the last 4 months) he has been on Adderall and Straterra. The Adderall calms him down, so he can focus during the day, at 4pm we give him a dose of Straterra and it seems to help with the moodiness. He is doing better at school than ever, he now has friends and is doing more normal things for a kid his age. As I have already posted, he had a severe allergic reaction to Risperadol, had hallucinations and became homicidal and suicidal. It was bad! He is a new kid. His IQ was tested and is 124! Now his grades are actually started to catch up to his IQ.
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mistersmiley (1 posts)
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Dec-19-04, 10:56 PM (EST)
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19. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
We have used Carlson's fish oil for our ADHD son and Asperger Syndrome daughter and it seems to make them calmer. What we have added recently (especially for my son) is Magnesium Taurate. Since he started taking the Magnesium Taurate (from Cardiovascular Systems) he has literally been transformed from a somewhat disagreeable, difficult son -- to a sweet, more cooperative and reasonable boy (he's seven). He takes two capsules with a protein breakfast, one for dinner, one before bed. After he started taking the capsules (he can swallow well) he started "requesting" them, saying "they calm me down, I like them." Ok then!He also takes Epsom Salts baths (one cup per tub). He loves the baths. He aways comes out singing and happy -- rather than yelling at me (where's my clothes, where's my towel). The magnesium and sulfate are good for him and absorbed into the skin. Magnesium is a mineral all of us (our whole family takes it) apparently need more of. Most only get about 1/2 of what we need, leading to a multitude of problems, including bad temperment.
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Libbybill (11 posts)
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Apr-18-02, 03:45 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
I just read your note and have decided to see how the fish oil works for my 6 year old son. I am just wanting to touch base to see if you had any luck with it. Thanks, Libby
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Sue8221 (3 posts)
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Dec-30-04, 09:00 PM (EST)
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20. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
Hi I am new here. First Post. But I need more information about what you were talking about. What is smoothie made of?
My 7 year old daughter is fixing to try Risperdal. Sue
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zachsmom (2 posts)
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Jun-13-02, 05:55 PM (EST)
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11. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
I am wondering about your comment about your doctor saying that your child might be bi-polar. Our son takes this medication. I was wondering if using this drug means that my child is bi-polar. They explained that why they put my son on this drug was because it works in children with ADHD/anxiety issues. Should I be scared that my child has a mental illness that I am unaware of.
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hopeful (48 posts)
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Jun-13-02, 09:00 PM (EST)
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12. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
First off, I am not a doctor. Just another parent searching for answers. But here's some information I have on Zoloft and Risperdal. There is good information on the web (check our www.deperessiondepot.net). And if you want good info on bipolar disorder, I highly recommend the book "The Bipolar Child" by Demitri Papolos, M.D., and Janice Papolos. You can get it at Amazon.com.Zoloft (sertraline) is an SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor) ANTIDEPRESSANT medication. (Prozac is another medication in this same class of antidepressants). Zoloft is used to treat depression, panic disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), or posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD). There is more information about Zoloft at www.zoloft.com. Risperdal (risperidone) is an ANTIPSYCHOTIC, and the most frequently prescribed antipsychotic medication in the U.S., according to Risperdal's website (www.risperdal.com). It is often used to treat people with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. The book "The Bipolar Child" says it is used to treat psychotic symptoms AND/OR reduce rages. I'd ask your son's doctor about the possibility of bipolar disorder if you are concerned about this possiblity. Many docs are hesitant to diagnose young children with bipolar disorder (what is called "early-onset bipolar disorder"). The book "The Bipolar Child" makes the case that bipolar disorder CAN and SHOULD be diagnosed in young children. The authors also warn that in many cases, giving ANTIDEPRESSANTS such as Zoloft to children who have bipolar disorder can cause "increasing anxiety states, potentially inducing manina, more frequent cycling and increases in aggressive outbursts and temper tantrums." I know it is scary (I've been there, too!), but try not to get too upset. Just get as much info as you can from the web, books and your son's doctors, and try to make the best decision you can. My best wishes.
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Naomi (2 posts)
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Jun-17-02, 07:00 AM (EST)
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13. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
I have been reading this message board for a year and this is my first time contributing - but I just felt compelled after reading your message. I have a 5.5 yr old son, that is also on Risperdal. I questioned his diagnosis of early-onset bipolar and was quite hesitant to start him off on such an aggressive medication. I questioned his dx to the psychiatrist and pschologist as well as his pediatrician. What they all told me was very helpful in deciding if this was the right medecine to try for my child. They said Risperdal treats these symptons: aggression, impulsivity, explosive behavior, inflexibility (I think there were probably more symptoms, but I now forget). Then they asked, "Does your son have these symptons?" My answer was "yes!". They said, "Well, Risperdal treats these symptoms." Makes sense to me then. I am not treating "Bipolar Disorder", I am treating my sons symptoms. And for the time being, it's working!! I don't think we have to get hung up on diagnosis - all the time, we need to think about how these meds can help improve our child's (and our) quality of life!! Good Luck!!
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carebear (18 posts)
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Mar-19-06, 11:51 AM (EST)
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23. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
HI,
Both of my children are being treated by 2 different docs. They each believe in treating the symptoms and behaviors. COBP is difficult to dx. Neither of my kids have had any manic episodes. More depressive, anxiety,explossiveness behaviors. We tried fish oil omega brite recomended by Harvard MD out of world famous McLeans Hospital with our older boy 3 yrs ago. It did not seem to make much of a difference. However, myabe the dose should have been increased. The stuff was very expensive.
Finding the right meds takes so long. Then when things seem to being going well, boom, they stop working or cause some serious side effect. I kweep journals on both kids. Best of luck,
karen
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musicmom (2 posts)
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Jul-09-04, 04:51 PM (EST)
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18. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
my son has asperger's syndrome (high-functioning autism) and is unable to take standard meds for his behavioral problems. his psychiatrist recently recommended fish oil. the brand is coromega and the product is packaged like little ketchup packets and tastes like orange icing. there are no fish burps or fishy aftertaste. my son has been taking a double dose (two packets) a day and we are working up to three. i do see an improvement in his behavior. this seems almost too good to be true but i am definitely willing to see where this takes us. we've tried risperdal, celexa and something else but nothing helped. we did best on positive reinforcement and with-holding treats until my sister died two years ago. she and my son were extremely close and he was 9 when she died. now he is having episodes of intense anger and showing other signs of depression. we see the psychiatrist again in about a week to see if he needs talk therapy as well. the coromega is available at GNC (call first) and some health food stores. the best price i've found is their website www.coromega.com good luck!
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XCJD671 (10 posts)
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Jan-11-05, 08:17 AM (EST)
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21. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
Fish oil or (Omega 3) is often used as a mood stabilizer.
It has worked well for my son and my Bi-polar neice.
Dr. Papalos (Bi-polar expert)recomends Coromega brand,
you can find it on the web.
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beth (508 posts)
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Mar-21-06, 11:12 PM (EST)
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24. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
Please read the material on our web site and if possible get a copy of the Explosive Child Book. Many children who are diagnosed with Aspergers have deficits in cognitive skills, such as cognitive flexibility, executive skills, social skills. These are crucial skills needed for handling frustration, being adaptable and flexible, problem solving and compliance. The approach described on our web site and in the Explosive Child book, (CPS-Collaborative Problem Solving)works on identifying and teaching the lacking skills. It is a compassionate and effective approach that has been shown to benefit children in a variety of settings.I will email a handout that provides an overview of the approach.
Warmly,
Beth
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spudsy (2 posts)
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Oct-15-06, 11:01 AM (EST)
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30. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
he probally really does not know why he gets angry i have a son who is adhd with aggressions and his adhd makes him compulsive therefore he reacts on his anger before he thinks about it afterwards he shows remorse and crys but it is too late he needs a really good licensed clinical worker and a mild dose of risperdal will help his aggressions they started my son out on a half mg 3 times a day then gradually increased it to 2 mg 3 times a day when it got built uo in his system they reduced it to 1 mg at 3;00 and 1 mg at bedtime then by morning his sleepiness is worn off and he sleeps so much better before he was restless and tossed and turned although risperdal makes him thirsty and he cant stand bright lights they make him tired and rub his eyes allot hope this helps brian
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bonnieM (3 posts)
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Apr-10-06, 08:53 PM (EST)
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25. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
Elizabeth, Please read this! My son was put on Risperdal last year and was on it for approx 2 or 3 weeks and one day the school called to tell me they were taking him to the hospital. He was hallucinating! He thought he was a flamingo and was completly cracked! It was deturmined through some testing that he is allergic to it. Just warning ya. Ive heard that fish oil is good, I can't get my younger son to take the big capsules though. Any suggestions?
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azheart (10 posts)
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Apr-13-06, 03:35 PM (EST)
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27. "RE: Risperdal or fish oil?" |
>Elizabeth, Please read this! My son
>was put on Risperdal last
>year and was on it
>for approx 2 or 3
>weeks and one day the
>school called to tell me
>they were taking him to
>the hospital. He was
>hallucinating! He thought he
>was a flamingo and was
>completly cracked! It was
>deturmined through some testing that
>he is allergic to it.
> Just warning ya.
>Ive heard that fish oil
>is good, I can't get
>my younger son to take
>the big capsules though.
>Any suggestions?
Our doctor also prescribed respitrol for my 10 year old daughter, after reading up on it, i decided not to fill the prescrip. but i have started her on the omega 3 fish oil capsules, they are big, but easy to swallow, her first try i had her put it on back of her tounge and take a big swig of water, she hasn't had a problem at all. As far as behavior changes, very subtle, but noticeable....best of luck to you! Tracey
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